Few questions

[Zeek]

my cpu should not be overheating. Since after it shuts on it turns back on and loads again. then it can be days b4 it shuts down again.

downloaded and installed fanspeed. reading my GPU around 46C-50C

[Jä×]

Well I was referring to the CPU/Motherboard since the GPU overheating typically just causes a bluescreen and not a powerdown/restart condition.

I've actually seen a computer where someone let it keep trying over and over and over again and literally melted the solder of the chip's pins! (Which is a WAY bigger problem at that point!  )  The inside of the case never even got warm.

Murf.... :l

[Zeek]

http://prntscr.com/11wsgn that is what some readings i get not sure of accuracy but this is what it mainly reads. Fan speed is high because my bro got done playing a game.




Yes it is a save link its just the type of desktop capture i use called lightshot?

[Jä×]

Given that negative is 60C... none of those figures are extreme enough to warrant a failsafe shutdown.... CPU auto shutdown is normally 180-190F/82-87C.

[MrMxyzptlk]

my cpu should not be overheating. Since after it shuts on it turns back on and loads again. then it can be days b4 it shuts down again.

downloaded and installed fanspeed. reading my GPU around 46C-50C

Yeah....

Sometimes you say that it shuts down and immediately tries to restart.

Other times (now) you're saying that it runs for days just fine then shuts down. (Once? Cyclically? ?? )

....

In any event:

The -60C reading is clearly a "garbage" value (ditto your "+3.3V") for something that's not even being measured* on your rig, so "warrant a safe shutdown" - or any other conclusion based on that value - is also garbage.

Are the posted temps during idle, or heavy load? Is loaded, Graphics or CPU intensive?

Your CPU (core) temps look to be fine, and you shouldn't be trying to determine if it graphics-/GPU-related until you've ruled out everything else anyway. (Since it's almost always obvious in some way when the GPU
s at fault: Strange/no display when rest of compy's running fine, etc.)

Your +12V looks WAY low, indicating that there may be too much load from peripheral devices, or your PSU hasn't got enough oomph for what you loading on it. (Either that or it's actually showing you a (false) +5V rail....)

You're statements in this thread have confused me, however, such that I can't tell what's even happening to your machine at this point.

* I.e. You do NOT have a third temp detector on your mobo, which is common....

[Zeek]

Here let me try to clarify what i mean.

When i mean a random shut down i can be surfing the web or something and then all of a sudden it shuts off and then powers back on after roughly 1-5 second wait time. It happens whenever it feels like so to say. one day it will shut off turn on then proceed to be fine for a day, few days, or a week then it happens again.  Yet it can happen twice in a day.

When i posted the temp readings that was after a game (League of Legends). i can give you a picture of it while running idle if you wish. As for the volts im not sure whats up with that.

i replaced the power supply last weekend and it should be getting what it needs. granted it was one that we had for an older computer trying to run on low voltage after replacing something in it but cant remember and it required more power. So with this power supply, there are a lot of extra connectors because the old comp it was in needed the converters.


http://prntscr.com/125885 http://prntscr.com/1258oa These two images are taken when just Google Chrome is running. But the temp does bounce between 53-60 for core 1 and core 2 reaches 53-54 max? lowest 45? with just Google chrome running but it has been on for 15 mins now with it running

[MrMxyzptlk]

Ok.  That does not sound like a CPU heatsink problem then. (One down....  )

Since it happens in wildly random periods of time, you can probably rule out heat, since it would be more consistent than weeks vs days duration.  (It'd be over more like a range of a few days difference in TTF (Time-To-Fail), tops.)


Since you've changed something - the PSU - I suggest that you do NOT change anything else for some time now, until either 1) the problem has ceased for several weeks (if that's a usual period in which a shut down might occur), or 2) it fails (in a similar manner) a few more times.

I'd advise that you ignore Speedfan in the meantime and see if changing the PSU has done the job.

[Zeek]

ok. will post when the shutdown happens again.

[Jä×]

It could be that the secondary power plug to CPU on the motherboard is faulty. If it's not getting enough power to the CPU it could power off at random intervals, or under heavy CPU load(versus GPU) and not want to start either.

[Zeek]

So just a few mins ago roughly 5:40 AM this morning my comp decided to shut off again. i was only on facebook when it happened. so idk what to do. Ive talked to some of my buds in school that do computer repair and some say it sounds like hard drive failure but im not exactly sure what it is.

[Jä×]

That's easy to check...

http://www.seagate.com/support/downloads/item/seatools-win-master/
You can run this with windows loaded, but since it's randomly shutting down.

http://www.seagate.com/support/internal-hard-drives/consumer-electronics/ld25-series/seatools-dos-master/
Download and burn this to a CD, restart the computer and let the disc go to work. You'll need to select "Long test" from the test types.

This will tell you within an hour if your HDD is failing.

[Zeek]

ok. how long does this normally take?

[MrMxyzptlk]

So just a few mins ago roughly 5:40 AM this morning my comp decided to shut off again. i was only on facebook when it happened. so idk what to do. Ive talked to some of my buds in school that do computer repair and some say it sounds like hard drive failure but im not exactly sure what it is.

Not likely, actually.

If that were the case you'd be getting error info/blue screens from Windoze. (Also, it is EXTREMELY rare to have total-loss-of-everything - i.e. an instant shut down - due to an HDD failure.

We're all just guessing at this point, still.

Could you please post an image of your "System" (with any personal info rubbed out, pls)?*  That way we can determine what set of diagnostics we can get from your system faults. (And if none, know for a fact that it's an intermittent critical HW problem.)

Frankly, we don't even know what version of Windows you're running! 

* Start, RIGHT-click "Computer" and select "Properties"

Pls BE SURE to AT LEAST rub out any/all named things, and your Windows Product ID.

[Zeek]

ok will do when i get home.

[Jä×]

My bet is on vista.