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General Category => Tech Support and Chat => Topic started by: Draucus on February 26, 2008, 08:07:42 PM

Title: Blue Screen of Death!!!
Post by: Draucus on February 26, 2008, 08:07:42 PM
All the info I know about my computer that I can give you is this.  It is a Dell, and it runs windows xp.  If you need anymore info. about anything, then you are going to have to explain on how to find out more about my computer.  So here is my problem.

My family calls it the blue screen of death.  Once when the computer started having the blue screen of death problem, it turned out that the problem was a magnet stuck to the side of the pc.  Now it has come back again, and there is no magnet what so ever on it anywhere.  The blue screen of death is a blue screen, of course, with all this gibberish (letters & numbers), and it crashes the computer.  The next time it pops up, I will try to get everything that it says, and I will post it here, hoping that you can help me, but it doesn't pop up as often as it use to.  So I might give you what it says in maybe a couple days or weeks, but if you might know my problem or have any suggestions, please let me know.
I'm not really smart at understanding computers than I am at running programs.
Title: Re: Blue Screen of Death!!!
Post by: Fuzion on February 26, 2008, 08:34:16 PM
It's known as blue screen of death in the internet  :P.I had that screen too,it's so annoying 5 times it happened to me with nv4_disp.   :'(
Title: Re: Blue Screen of Death!!!
Post by: Draucus on February 26, 2008, 08:43:19 PM
nv4_disp?
Title: Re: Blue Screen of Death!!!
Post by: JôkÖr on February 26, 2008, 08:44:48 PM
nv4_disp?


edercated gess = nividia display?

Correct me if im wrong
Title: Re: Blue Screen of Death!!!
Post by: Fuzion on February 26, 2008, 09:11:53 PM
You are right,I have to update the driver every time my computer crash,so I'll try to convince my parents to buy me a new one. XD My oldie turned into 4 in decemeber.  :P
Title: Re: Blue Screen of Death!!!
Post by: Floyd on February 26, 2008, 09:12:11 PM
You could always try to restore the system back to a date before the evil blue screen of death started to appear the second time. Or if the warranty is still valid you can try to call Dell.
Title: Re: Blue Screen of Death!!!
Post by: Fuzion on February 26, 2008, 09:13:44 PM
You could always try to restore the system back to a date before the evil blue screen of death started to appear the second time. Or if the warranty is still valid you can try to call Dell.

Ya,if you go to Dell website and search for nv4_disp, there's a whoooole a whole of posts about it,my computer is sick.  :'(
Title: Re: Blue Screen of Death!!!
Post by: Draucus on February 26, 2008, 09:18:05 PM
So, what is this nividia display that supposedly was your problem?
Title: Re: Blue Screen of Death!!!
Post by: MrMxyzptlk on February 26, 2008, 10:08:37 PM
So, what is this nividia display that supposedly was your problem?

It's likely to have absolutely nothing to do with YOUR problem (and should probably get a thread of its own... Fuzion?)

Um, PLEASE tell me you did a FULL "thorough" disk scan on all the drives on that machine once you found it had a "computer eraser" stuck to its side?

If not, I'm 1) suprised that it went away when you removed the magnet!, and 2) suprise it ran this long without the problem showing up again!

It's EXTREMELY possible you scrambled some stuff on your computer by having a magnet stuck to it!  (And by "scrambled" I mean "stuck a mixer into its open skull and ran it for a few minutes/day/weeks - however long that magnet was on there!)

So, before you do ANYTHING else, do a "thorough" disk scan on each drive listed in "My Computer" as follows:

0) Open "My Computer"

1) RIGHT-click the next (for the first, that's be the "C:") drive to be scanned and select "Properties" from the popup - to bring up the "Properties" menu for that drive.

2) Select the "Tools" tab, and then the "Check Now..." button in the "Error-checking" pane.

3) CHECK BOTH BOXES, then select the "Start" button.

4) Go watch TeeVee for many hours / sleep!

5) Upon completion you'll have to select the "OK" button from the "Disk Check Complete" popup.

6) Go to #1, selecting the next disk drive listed in "My Computer...."
If no more drives, you're done!

See if computer behaves better.  If not, that's be no surprise to me, because who know WHAT might've gotten messed up.

If possible - and you know how* - you could try a Windows Repair at this point, knowing that you're not trying to fix stuff that's on a corrupted disk drive....

Finally: If you ever do another Disk Check run, uncheck the bottom box or you'll have to sleep through the whole thing again!



*If you really want to try this, I can point you to some good walkthrus, but it's not for the novice computer person.....


Title: Re: Blue Screen of Death!!!
Post by: Draucus on February 26, 2008, 10:25:57 PM
It wasn't fixed immediately when I took off the magnet.
We had to get it repaired by a specialist or someone.
It might still might (possibly) be problems from before.  Am I wrong?
Title: Re: Blue Screen of Death!!!
Post by: MrMxyzptlk on February 27, 2008, 12:43:13 AM
It wasn't fixed immediately when I took off the magnet.
We had to get it repaired by a specialist or someone.
It might still might (possibly) be problems from before.  Am I wrong?

One can only assume that if you paid someone to fix it, they did what I was suggesting at some point.

(Note the "One can only assume" part??)

Dunno what else until you get the info from the blue screen message....

Title: Re: Blue Screen of Death!!!
Post by: §§}Compdude on February 27, 2008, 07:13:01 AM
If you're a techy-advanced person you could always run Spinrite 6.0 on the drive and repair the corrupted sectors. I've used it to repair drives that got put right next to an unshielded speaker and stuff like that. It's smart enough to rebuild the damaged data so it's almost as good as new if not bit-for-bit perfect. Costs a bit of money though.

Cell phones will ALSO scramble a hard drive! If you have them close enough, the occasional EMP they release will zap recording surfaces like hard drives and tapes. Just depends on whether or not there's enough shielding between the drive and the phone.
Title: Re: Blue Screen of Death!!!
Post by: Draucus on February 27, 2008, 11:23:59 AM
if cell phones can scramble it,
what about cordless home phones?
Title: Re: Blue Screen of Death!!!
Post by: Fuzion on February 27, 2008, 01:50:12 PM
Cell phones will ALSO scramble a hard drive!

One time I had my cellphone next to my monitor, then someone called me and the monitor screen started shaking like water.   :LOL:
Title: Re: Blue Screen of Death!!!
Post by: Draucus on February 27, 2008, 02:19:00 PM
Ok, I now know.
We didn't get it fixed.
We got it replaced.
Title: Re: Blue Screen of Death!!!
Post by: Gunner on February 27, 2008, 03:51:00 PM
oh, by the way blue screens can either be caused by your HDD going mad and going kaboomski

the operating system deleting its own files (thank you very much micro$oft)

or your hardware being faulty. mainly your RAM. if your RAM chips are bugged then thats it. the computer can retart, data lost bluescreened and many other nasties. download memtest and test your RAM. thats if you still had the PC xD
Title: Re: Blue Screen of Death!!!
Post by: §§}Compdude on February 27, 2008, 04:36:00 PM
Cell phones will ALSO scramble a hard drive!

One time I had my cellphone next to my monitor, then someone called me and the monitor screen started shaking like water.   :LOL:


That will happen with CRTs, and it will also come in over headphones as a beeping noise. Cordless home phones will not harm the computer, they use an entirely different communications protocol than cell phones. They are also much much shorter range and less power. The cell phone, when "pinged" by the tower to announce itself, or when it announces itself to the network to stay registered, uses a near supercharged power burst (not quite 911 level!) to alert any nearby and ranging towers of it's presence (this is also how they can track a cell phone). I can't exactly say as to the wattage level of this burst but I'm pretty sure it's between 15 and 40 watts! If you happen to call 911, you may notice that your phone becomes quite warm as the conversation goes on and the battery starts to die...this is because the phone has that 911 power level programming to make sure the call gets heard even in the most severe of conditions. I'm also pretty sure this power level is way outside the FCC regulations for the general usage of the phone.

It's kinda like the CB'ers with the illegal kilowatt boosters.
Title: Re: Blue Screen of Death!!!
Post by: MrMxyzptlk on February 28, 2008, 12:34:48 AM
Ok, I now know.
We didn't get it fixed.
We got it replaced.

Did they move the existing data/installed system over tot he new one, or was it "built from scratch?"

If the latter, I'd check for magnets again, because it's either that, you're doing something unwise to your computer, or you have really rotten luck!

If they copied ANYTHING over from the old system the problem might very well have been brought over to the new computer, too....

Title: Re: Blue Screen of Death!!!
Post by: Draucus on February 28, 2008, 06:42:55 AM
I don't know about that.
I am going to ask my parents.
Hopefully, they will know,
and I hope that Dell didn't copy anything from the old one.
Title: Re: Blue Screen of Death!!!
Post by: Ben-BSH on February 29, 2008, 02:31:22 PM
i got SO many blue screens with vista, ergh, i  :love: XP
Title: Re: Blue Screen of Death!!!
Post by: Draucus on February 29, 2008, 05:47:52 PM
I use windows XP by the way.

I will edit this later to answer your question later.