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General Category => Tech Support and Chat => Topic started by: Taipan™ on September 14, 2007, 03:49:59 AM
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Since the IMAGE was removed this tutorial is basically useless and I am also getting completely spammed by people requesting the Halo Image or requesting my help in how to make their own images. I do not know of any program that is free which will create an ISO, MDF or IMG, only programs that require money so I have not made any tutorials on how to make your own Mini Image. I have created a new image which only contains the key section and table of contents of the halo disk without any author content, doing this has also made it less then 2mb in size.
I have moved this tutorial to the Allied Enemies forums where the image is present, I will not post a link to it because it is against BFM policy. I hope in doing this it will make everyone else's lives, but mainly mine :P a little easier
Would a Moderator please unsticky this topic and move it back to the tech support section so it will slowly die again, it does contain discussions over the use of different image mounting programs which could be useful to some people
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Your are correct Daemon tools is an excellent way to use your programs without wearing out your cd-rom drive. Please note however that you must have a legal copy of the software you are using. The image you make would be an archive backup copy of the software.
I personally use the program to backup and keep my cd's in pristine working order. The actual cd's stay in a case and don't get lost, scratched, or broken.
Taipan,
Image link removed as posting and copying copywrited software is illegal. Regardless of whether or not you have it installed it is illegal to copy copywrited software. That being the case someone copying the software that doesn't have a valid license would be breaking the law. The only way that you can legally copy software is for your own backup copy.
Please DO NOT post any copywrited software on this site! We do not allow pirating in any form...
Thanks for your help on this - BFM_BluAdpt
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You may use Daemon Tools to make your own image of your halo CD. That would be perfectly legal :)
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I am merely stating what the license for most software states in its license. You are correct as I stated you can make a backup of your own software.
That program is an excellent resource to backup your software and keep from wearing your cd-rom drive out.
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hmm at least one of these threads disappeared, and it all seems legal to me, but my question somewhere that went poof was that the img link did not work even before you removed it and was there a way to make you own img file _ Actually I think I asked if you have a tutorial for that too? But looks like Rebel says you can do that with Daemon Tools and I assume it tells you how?
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im not sure abought dameon i used that before but never saw a option to make the img from it i bought alcholl 120% for my backup copys i also used it to make 2.4mb mini imgs for halo so it takes littel space alcholl 120% is easy to used i preer .mds files over iso this is just my opinion virtual cds on pc are legal under the fact u are alowd to have a backup of evrey cd u own as long as u dont share it over internet and u keep the originol cd evan if it breaks or ur cd drive(like mine that spins at over 7400rmp sherders it into 1000s pices)kills it then ur fine and it legal from my understanding of the law
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Maze, we just made it clear that we are not allowing any form of download of a Halo Image file because it infringes copywrite laws. Mod please remove...
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insted of posting download links all users can use a program like alchohl 120% to make their own img file for it legaly for private use
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Once again (as I did in the old forums) I must caution AGAINST the use of DAEMON TOOLS, as it installs itself in such a manner as to open your PC up to a whole new realm of possible really nasty infections that are VERY hard to remove. (DT installs a driver into the BASIC BOOT RECORD OF YOUR HARD DISK. Several really nasty viruses out there use this as an exploit to install hard-to-find/-remove polymorphic viruses and trojans that can pretty-much only be remove with a LOW-LEVEL HDD nuke & pave! (NOT for the non-expert PC mavens....)
I suggest that you PURCHASE one of the many "Virtual CD/DVD (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22Virtual+%28+CD+OR+DVD+%29%22+software&btnG=Google+Search)" programs out there to accomplish this instead. (I use this one (http://www.farstone.com/software/virtualdrive.htm), FYI.)
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Am I allowed to post a link to a Halo image file which is <1MB, and does not contain anything which would allow you to install Halo?
(Most, if not all, files contained are filled with gibberish to trick Halo into thinking the disc is installed.)
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No, sorry, Saes. It's still a game image and breaks copyright laws. You can have it for personal use but we can't allow you to distribute them on these forums. People can make their own images.
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No, sorry, Saes. It's still a game image and breaks copyright laws. You can have it for personal use but we can't allow you to distribute them on these forums. People can make their own images.
The key at the beginning of a CD's data is not covered by copyright laws only the authors content is. However have fun trying to get just the key without also getting some of the content along with it.
Nice dig up of a very old thread, thought this tutorial was in the old forums
Ive been using Daemon tools for about 4 years now and haven't got a single virus involving this exploit (everything is exploited when it comes to windows anyway). Most virus's are still obtained by not being careful with dodgy downloadable programs, sites, emails and inadequate protection. In otherwords I don't blame Daemon Tools and still think it to be a great easy to use "free" program.
I might one day also refine this tutorial and also make a tutorial on how to create your own small image of the key that tell the game that there is the disk in the drive (probably using Alcohol 120%)
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... Since we're passing along stories about Daemon Tools & vulnerability....
FYI: My son had installed DT (against my advice) and was/is careful about downloading and sites visited, . . . BUT he download an ISO image from a friend, and like a good Netizen scanned it with AVG .... which did NOT find the MBR virus inside the image that when he mounted into DT used the DT driver to then infect his computer, requiring a "low level" nuke & pave. (Four days work....)
Lessons learned:
- We now know that AVG does NOT scan inside of ISO images! :-\
- He uses another image mounting program now, that does NOT assert itself so openly into the OS. (I forget what he uses now, but I'll check with him and edit into here.)
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I'd like to add that MagicISO is another good tool both for ripping/working-with ISO images and for virtual-drives (technically the virtual drive app., MagicDisc, is a separate download but it becomes part of the same tray-icon).
As it's been said, you should only make an IMG/ISO of your own copy of Halo PC, and only use your own license-key to install.
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While we're at it, for those who have/use Alcohol 120%, it comes with a virtual drive component. (Although it did do something w/ drivers when I installed it...)
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While we're at it, for those who have/use Alcohol 120%, it comes with a virtual drive component. (Although it did do something w/ drivers when I installed it...)
MOST of the "virtual CD/DVD" emulators will HAVE to "do something with drivers," but by far the greater majority do it within the Windows driver level. (Which would require getting into Windows to 'infect.' granted not all that hard, but a LOT harder than the alternative...)
DT uses a DOS*-level driver that is installed BEFORE WINDOWS - and any AV or anti-anything SW - IS BOOTED UP, you see.
Hence my cautions about it....
* Ya, I still prefer to use the OLD name for this sort of thing!
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Is there any way to tell the difference between the DOS-type and regular drivers?
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Is there any way to tell the difference between the DOS-type and regular drivers?
...Very good question, saes!
Unfortunately it's not that easy, since the naming convention isn't strictly ahdered to....
However, there's a semi-complicated way to check:
Whenever you boot your machine into "Safe Mode" (<F8> during boot sequence and select "Safe Mode") the list of loaded drivers is displayed during the boot sequence. USUALLY the last one that would normally load is named Mup.sys . Anything loaded after that is a "foriegn" DOS driver.
So you could do this: Boot into Safe Mode and watch the driver loading list scroll by, and note the name of the last one that loads (before the longer pause before Safe Mode actually starts up.) Then install the software you're interested in, and reboot, again, in Safe Mode, and see if that's added a new DOS driver to the end of the list.
Note also that these drivers CANNOT be unloaded while WIndows is running, and uninstalling them requires a reboot.
Also note that, if I recall, uninstalling DT within WIndows does NOT remove its DOS driver! (And it can't be removed while in Safe Mode either, since it's loaded, so you have to boot from another device and remove it from that drive partition BY HAND....)
GL!
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There's no reason for this to be stickied but so everyone can keep referring back to it I am moving it to the FAQ.
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is it possible to download Halo on a school computer?
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probly not
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ok,
so can someone PM me on how to make my own halo cd image or how to make this work plz?
BFM_Skedog
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I have used Alcohol 120% and Daemon Tools to mount my HALO.iso (which is only 20 MB btw), and I must say that Daemon Tools is much more preferable. It starts up as soon as I start my computer with no pop-ups at any time. It also barely takes up any memory. Alcohol 120% tends to take up a lot more memory than Daemon Tools.
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is it possible to download Halo on a school computer?
...Here we go again....
Sorry, but we can't get into that here, as we are not familiar with your school's (or business's) Acceptable Use Policy, which might not allow you to do that....
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>Sigh< ::)
My son uses the freeware Virtual CloneDrive (http://www.slysoft.com/en/virtual-clonedrive.html) to SAFELY mount his ISO image CDs and DVDs....
I use the commerical ($30US, not free) VirtualDrive (http://www.farstone.com/software/virtualdrive.htm) package from Farstone (http://www.farstone.com/) to rip and mount virtual CDs and DVDs....
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can someone give me a detailed look on how to locate the ISO file on my computer/disk,
i go the Freeware that Mxy's son uses but can find the file to mount,
thanks in advance,
BFM_Skedog
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Like Skedog, I installed Virtual CloneDrive, fired it up and then realized I didn't have an ISO file to browse to. In case it isn't clear to others, it is a 2 step process:
1) create an ISO image of your CD - this is a single file you create on your hard disk - this is a one-time process
2) then use a program to "mount" the ISO file on a virtual drive each time you want to play a game without the CD
Some programs will do both (I think Alcohol and Daemon Tools will). But if you want to avoid Daemon Tools and want freeware you'll probably have to use 2 separate programs.
For step 1, I found ISO Recorder (http://isorecorder.alexfeinman.com) which is freeware. I think this would be a good program for most people. In my case, I have an old halo CD which is very scratchy, and it wouldn't read my CD (yikes!). I tried Alcohol 52%, which has a trial version, and it worked, but only when I checked two boxes: "skip reading errors" and "fast skip error blocks". Not sure if those errors are due to scratchy disk or copyprotection of some kind. But I successfully created an ISO file. So try the free one first, and if it doesn't work I guess use the Alcohol trial.
To mount the ISO I decided to use Virtual CloneDrive (see Mxy's post for link).
The complete steps would be something like this:
1) Install ISO Recorder or Alcohol
2) Insert Halo CD into drive (duh)
3) Create a folder somewhere to store all your ISO files for any games you intend to make - C:\Files\ISO or whatever
4a) For Alcohol, start up the program, then use the "Image Making Wizard". Select the CD drive, click next, then select Standard ISO image format, and also set the destination folder that you created in step 3
4b) For ISO Recorder you can go to My Computer or Windows Explorer and right click on the CD drive (D: or whatever) and there should be an option "create image from CD" - again you would select ISO as the format and set the location to the folder where you want to save.
You should be able to create an ISO file from the above steps.
To use the ISO:
1) Take the Halo CD out of the drive (so you can make sure it's worked!)
2) Install Virtual CloneDrive
3) When installed, if you go to My Computer, you should see a cute little Sheep icon. If you right-click on that, select Mount, then browse to your ISO file you've created.
4) The sheep icon will get replaced with the familar masterchief icon, and you can now start up halo and it should work!
That is about everything I know, but if you have problems feel free to PM me.
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I am beginning to dislike macs . ugh. I want a pc there is so much more you can do!
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Heh heh heh...I just found out something... :clint:
You can take out the CD when the game is done loading. i.e. when you're at the main screen with the panorama of Halo and the selections. Your game will work fine. It just wants to see if your CD hash matches up I believe.
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Heh heh heh...I just found out something... :clint:
You can take out the CD when the game is done loading. i.e. when you're at the main screen with the panorama of Halo and the selections. Your game will work fine. It just wants to see if your CD hash matches up I believe.
It dose not check the cd hash on the cd with the one installed it just wants to see you actually have the game sort of a way to deter pirates but its not a very good way.
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The idea of the disk image is that you can store the disk somewhere safe and keep it only for installation purposes, while you can still use the program that requires the disk.
It is a legal process for you to make a backup copy, like an ISO, for private use.
It is also good to have one in case you lose your CD.
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...or in my case, if the CD gets so scratched you can't reinstall on a new computer
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instead of going through all the trouble of all these programs you could just keep your CD in good condition.
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instead of going through all the trouble of all these programs you could just keep your CD in good condition
carl, don't ever have kids :LOL:
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instead of going through all the trouble of all these programs you could just keep your CD in good condition.
Actually, my problem(s) [and considerations] is(are) completely different, although "wear" was a consideration when I made the jump to diskless....
- I was having a hard time keeping track of all my disks! (Mostly due to my CHILDREN and their visiting friends! :toughguy: ) Ripping them into mountable images and putting them all on a networked hard drive makes finding them, um, the ONLY WAY to "find" them! (And making "safe" copies of them so that I don't lose them is as easy as imaging the HDD....)
- I know of no game that is actually different ON THE DC/DVD as it's method of "verification" (keying,) so I could use MULTIPLE COPIES of the LONE image(s) on every networked computer! (I.e. All my machines simply network-mount the remote drive with all the images on them, and presto! Everyone has those CDs/DVDs at the ready! P.S. I also do this with all our ripped music, BTW! ... And the net' drives are all ready-only, so their safe!)
- Virtual drive mounting - even/esp. over Gbit Ethernet - is a LOT faster than most CD/DVD drives! (In fact, most of my computers not only do not have floppy drives, I stopped putting CD/DVD drives in them a while ago, too!)
- Some games are sold AT A DISCOUNT online in downloadable ISO image form (e.g. Supreme Commander - Forged Alliance), so they're mountable right off the cable! (I.e. They never see the plastic of a disk!)
- There's NO WAY for me to misplace an original disk now! I buy something, rip it onto my networked drive, update it's shadow copy, ... and put the disk and all it's (useful) packaging into a locked file cabinet in my shop! (Ya, I'd lose them all in a fire, but, um, wouldn't you, too? ::) . . . But then *I* have a backup COPY of their images in my safety deposit box - on the backup hard drive! ;D [Which is a lot more dense - and less $$ - than shoving all my disks in a (larger) safety deposit box!] )
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instead of going through all the trouble of all these programs you could just keep your CD in good condition.
Actually, my problem(s) [and considerations] is(are) completely different, although "wear" was a consideration when I made the jump to diskless....
- I was having a hard time keeping track of all my disks! (Mostly due to my CHILDREN and their visiting friends! :toughguy: ) Ripping them into mountable images and putting them all on a networked hard drive makes finding them, um, the ONLY WAY to "find" them! (And making "safe" copies of them so that I don't lose them is as easy as imaging the HDD....)
- I know of no game that is actually different ON THE DC/DVD as it's method of "verification" (keying,) so I could use MULTIPLE COPIES of the LONE image(s) on every networked computer! (I.e. All my machines simply network-mount the remote drive with all the images on them, and presto! Everyone has those CDs/DVDs at the ready! P.S. I also do this with all our ripped music, BTW! ... And the net' drives are all ready-only, so their safe!)
- Virtual drive mounting - even/esp. over Gbit Ethernet - is a LOT faster than most CD/DVD drives! (In fact, most of my computers not only do not have floppy drives, I stopped putting CD/DVD drives in them a while ago, too!)
- Some games are sold AT A DISCOUNT online in downloadable ISO image form (e.g. Supreme Commander - Forged Alliance), so they're mountable right off the cable! (I.e. They never see the plastic of a disk!)
- There's NO WAY for me to misplace an original disk now! I buy something, rip it onto my networked drive, update it's shadow copy, ... and put the disk and all it's (useful) packaging into a locked file cabinet in my shop! (Ya, I'd lose them all in a fire, but, um, wouldn't you, too? ::) . . . But then *I* have a backup COPY of their images in my safety deposit box - on the backup hard drive! ;D [Which is a lot more dense - and less $$ - than shoving all my disks in a (larger) safety deposit box!] )
you do have a point but in my case i only have halo for a game. in my opinion i to would RATHER have an ISO or mountable image. but i have read plenty of things about the dangers of such tools like dameon. including your post, that is why i do not do things like these. if there was a program made by a trust able corporation such as Microsoft then perhaps i would.
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...a trust able corporation such as Microsoft....
:smly_a_wink:
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...a trust able corporation such as Microsoft....
:smly_a_wink:
^^!
carl: As I said in an another/earlier post, I use the corporate-ready (rock-solid) VirtualDrive (http://www.farstone.com/software/virtualdrive.htm) by FarStone (http://www.farstone.com/), and would highly recommend it. It rips and mounts (up to all the available disk letters you have left, i.e. 25 max!), and will rip/convert to/from ISO images from/to its own format....
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:embarrassed: didnt see that one lol. i will look into it.
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it's a good idea but if ur in a living quarters with more than one person i.e. with ur family , roommates, dormmates, etc. it may be a good idea to keep only the CD bc u dont want someone getting on ur Halo name and getting u in trouble or banned :undecided: but if u trust the ppl around and/or u have a very secure comp (meaning u have strong password and u always log off before u leave the comp0 then ur in good shape.
~IRELAND
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it's a good idea but if ur in a living quarters with more than one person i.e. with ur family , roommates, dormmates, etc. it may be a good idea to keep only the CD bc u dont want someone getting on ur Halo name and getting u in trouble or banned :undecided: but if u trust the ppl around and/or u have a very secure comp (meaning u have strong password and u always log off before u leave the comp0 then ur in good shape.
~IRELAND
Well, my network-mountable images can only be mounted by members of my defined in-home domain, and even then I can control whether any individual user has access to it or not....
Same goes for images on a single machine: use the system's existing security to manage who has access to what, or even make distinct groups of managed image folders....
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I have moved this tutorial to the Allied Enemies forums with the image because iam just getting spammed by people asking for the image or how to make their own images
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I have moved this tutorial to the Allied Enemies forums with the image because iam just getting spammed by people asking for the image or how to make their own images
HUNH?!?
:undecided:
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I have moved this tutorial to the Allied Enemies forums with the image because iam just getting spammed by people asking for the image or how to make their own images
HUNH?!?
:undecided:
I think what Taipan meant, is that he replicated this TUT over on AE forums, with the image. Not that he physically moved the thread across forums :O
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I have moved this tutorial to the Allied Enemies forums with the image because iam just getting spammed by people asking for the image or how to make their own images
HUNH?!?
:undecided:
Myx should of understood that, that I copied it over to the Allied Enemies forums so i can freely host an image of the bad sectors of the Halo CD. Even though the image of the bad sectors and the TOC doesn't contain any of the copyrighted authors contents it would still not be a popular feeling for the higher ups to have on the forums
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I have moved this tutorial to the Allied Enemies forums with the image because iam just getting spammed by people asking for the image or how to make their own images
>.> i shud have just told me to go away ::)
lol o well :P cya soon taipam
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I have moved this tutorial to the Allied Enemies forums with the image because iam just getting spammed by people asking for the image or how to make their own images
>.> i shud have just told me to go away ::)
lol o well :P cya soon taipam
lol Noodragon as u recall i basically told you to do it yourself :D and you did, which in doing so you have probably learnt alot and could do the same process with any game you have no sweat. The power of learning to solve problems by yourself :)
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Old adage:
Give a man* a fish, you have fed him for today.
... TEACH a man* to fish, you have fed him for a lifetime!
Anyway, I still don't get it, but I skipped a bunch of stuff in this thread while I was gone, so I'll have to assume that it was specific info for the specific situation at hand....
* Implied generic form [sic]
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I have done as you requested Taipan and moved it back to TS&C.
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lol a month ago, oh well