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Title: Static Engineering Forces
Post by: Sandoz on September 08, 2012, 01:21:27 PM
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Title: Re: Static Engineering Forces
Post by: jim360 on September 08, 2012, 02:30:10 PM
Good grief, only 1 mark awarded for all that! And there's so much working needed to sort it all out!

I might attempt this if you need a solution - or are you just setting this to see who wants to do it?
Title: Re: Static Engineering Forces
Post by: BFM_Enigma on September 08, 2012, 03:02:04 PM
a simple vector problem, a little geometry and trig will take care of it.
Title: Re: Static Engineering Forces
Post by: BFM_Enigma on September 09, 2012, 10:23:33 AM
Good grief, only 1 mark awarded for all that! And there's so much working needed to sort it all out!

The life of a college student studying engineering! You bleed, sweat, and cry over each problem; babying it until you adopt it as your child. You look it over; interpreting it; checking it; recognize each angle, component, and force by name; making sure it is everything you expect! All for one mark.

...Then you move on to the next problem to attempt adoption!


very well put
Title: Re: Static Engineering Forces
Post by: jim360 on September 10, 2012, 03:29:30 PM
It seems there's a very different approach to problem-setting in the US from at least my university. All those awkward numbers... does it really add anything to the problem? Maybe some more practice with a calculator, and a test of patience.

Anyway, thanks for sharing, nice to see how things are done across the pond.
Title: Re: Static Engineering Forces
Post by: BFM_Fénix on September 10, 2012, 04:26:20 PM
It seems there's a very different approach to problem-setting in the US from at least my university. All those awkward numbers... does it really add anything to the problem? Maybe some more practice with a calculator, and a test of patience.

Anyway, thanks for sharing, nice to see how things are done across the pond.

More like a thing of Engineering nowadays... I've felt somewhat similar when I go to some of my classes (good thing I already finished the basic picky-with-numbers ones already). At most, I leave results as fractions, keeping more the integrity of the answer imo, but they always ask for decimals...

As for calculators... I agree with you completely  :siderofl: Around half my colleagues use TI's for exams while I go for mental calculus or a simple scientific calculator...
Title: Re: Static Engineering Forces
Post by: jim360 on September 11, 2012, 01:26:49 PM
I'm not convinced there's an easier way of solving this problem - it seems that all the information provided will be needed at some point. It's the nature of the problem that is different from what I'm used to. I tend to get asked problems like "a ball of mass m moving at an initial speed v takes t seconds to reach speed zero in the presence of a force F...". I might dig up one of them to show you what I mean - few if any numbers involved at all.

The original question looks doable but with all those numbers you could get very bogged down in the arithmetic which seems rather off-putting if ever you get slightly lost. Well, I say it looks doable anyway but I haven't put pen to paper on it yet.
Title: Re: Static Engineering Forces
Post by: jim360 on September 15, 2012, 02:53:24 AM
Out of interest, what's the age group that this is aimed at? First year of university/ college/ 18 years old?
Title: Re: Static Engineering Forces
Post by: BFM_Fénix on September 18, 2012, 12:59:24 PM
Don't worry, it is normal. Engineering will give you plenty of things to dislike.  :bang: :bang: :bang:
Title: Re: Static Engineering Forces
Post by: jim360 on September 18, 2012, 02:19:49 PM
I asked mainly so I can find an equivalent question from the same year in my university here - not to say "Oh look, these are the questions I do!" or anything (because in my first year at university I couldn't do these, lol!) but mainly to compare the different style of questions. Ideally it would be from an engineering paper but I don't seem to have access to those currently. I might put one up from a first-year physics paper some time soon.

As far as vectors go, I started to love them about a year or so ago, but funnily enough that was also the same time that I stopped doing the number work with them! The algebra of vectors can be quite wonderful and elegant. Switch to math, Sandoz, and save yourself from engineering tedium... do it!!