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Title: Vista and Halo*FIXED*
Post by: xsix on December 31, 2008, 04:03:01 AM
Hey all,

I just recently "upgraded" to vista home premium and I can't get halo to work. :'( its say that directDRAW isnt working what do I do? It also tells me to run DXDIAG but I don't know how to do that, any of you vista users out there please help! I'm halo-less until otherwise, :'( :'(

thanks Xsix
Title: Re: Vista and Halo
Post by: BFM_Kiwi on December 31, 2008, 04:39:07 AM
If you upgraded and haven't reinstalled halo, try uninstalling and reinstalling halo.

If it still doesn't work, then try updating your graphics drivers.
Title: Re: Vista and Halo
Post by: xsix on December 31, 2008, 05:59:31 AM
I've already tried that, but I'm not sure what needs doing I've gotten DirectX10. The same probelm occurs.
Title: Re: Vista and Halo
Post by: BFM_saes on December 31, 2008, 06:00:44 AM
So you installed the latest GPU drivers and then updated Direct X (from the MS site)?
Title: Re: Vista and Halo
Post by: xsix on December 31, 2008, 06:14:26 AM
So you installed the latest GPU drivers and then updated Direct X (from the MS site)?
I'm not quite sure what that means, but we tried to install a driver or something like that and it didn't work. and yes we downloaded DirectX off of the MS site
Title: Re: Vista and Halo
Post by: BFM_Rickp9 on December 31, 2008, 07:37:05 AM
did you try this right click on your icon and run as administrator?

I had to do this the first time and it work

Rickp9
Title: Re: Vista and Halo
Post by: xsix on December 31, 2008, 05:53:14 PM
OMG  :yesyes: :yesyes: :yesyes:
Thanks so much Rick !!!! your the best it works now... :yesyes: :yesyes:
Title: Re: Vista and Halo
Post by: Tanger on December 31, 2008, 06:07:10 PM
OMG  :yesyes: :yesyes: :yesyes:
Thanks so much Rick !!!! your the best it works now... :yesyes: :yesyes:


For future reference, because this will happen with all of your programs.

User Account Control (UAC) is Microsofts way of developing the most "secure" operating system ever. Basically UAC is over secure. Turning it off does NOT change or hurt anything at all. I recommend you turn UAC off. This will keep you from having issues in the future. Here is how to turn off UAC if you wish to do so.

1. Go to Start
2. Click on Control Panel
3. Make sure you're in Control Panel Home (Not classic view) Check this by looking on the left panel.
4. Now click "User Accounts and Family Safety"
5. Then choose "User Accounts"
6. Finally, at the bottom click "Turn User Account Control On or Off"

Done.

Title: Re: Vista and Halo
Post by: Glogg on December 31, 2008, 06:32:41 PM
Whoa, i don't recommend turning off UAC for the average user.

Microsoft put UAC in place to act like the similar things that Linux and Apple have had in place for along time now. It's there to try to help protect users from themselves. With UAC enabled Vista is ALOT more secure than XP ever was without 3rd party software.

Please don't turn it off unless your a well experienced PC user. I don't mean to sound mean, but if the original poster had a problem getting Halo to run on Vista, cause of in-experience,  then he should leave UAC enabled. Sorry i don't mean to sound mean.

Title: Re: Vista and Halo
Post by: Tanger on December 31, 2008, 08:49:00 PM
Whoa, i don't recommend turning off UAC for the average user.

Microsoft put UAC in place to act like the similar things that Linux and Apple have had in place for along time now. It's there to try to help protect users from themselves. With UAC enabled Vista is ALOT more secure than XP ever was without 3rd party software.

Please don't turn it off unless your a well experienced PC user. I don't mean to sound mean, but if the original poster had a problem getting Halo to run on Vista, cause of in-experience,  then he should leave UAC enabled. Sorry i don't mean to sound mean.



It's not because he wasn't experienced, it's because Microsoft made Vista too secure, for that exact reason. They wanted to claim they have the safest OS ever. Which, technically, they do, but it's over secure.

When I first got Vista I had trouble getting my games to run, along with the others who have bought Vista. This isn't because I lacked experience, I've been using a computer since I was 5 years old. When I turned off UAC all of my problems went away. Heck, that's how I got my macros for BFM to work, by turning off UAC.





Title: Re: Vista and Halo
Post by: Glogg on December 31, 2008, 09:47:12 PM
i still don't recommend it.

All i do if im having problems is to go into properties of said program and check mark "run as Administrator", on a per program basis. That's what i did for the Macro i was using when i was running Spartans Forever Halo clan, and it worked great.
I have yet to have a program that won't run for me by doing what i do.

Tanger, I'm not criticizing what you do on your PC. I just don't like to see people advising others to turn off UAC. It's there for a reason.

Sorry bro.
Title: Re: Vista and Halo
Post by: Ediseye on December 31, 2008, 11:39:42 PM
While I would not recommend turning UAC to the average user, I think I'm going to have to back Tanger up on this one. Even with it off,t he updated kernel which is in sync with Windows Server 2008 provides much better security, with UAC on or off, than any previous version of Windows XP.

Even my dad, who used to be good with computers, back with Windows 95 and such, has UAC turned off per my recommendation. It was a bit stupid to be asked every time iTunes or CCleaner wanted updated because it wanted internet access. Even CCleaner wasn't removing all of the things I told it to because of UAC, which is downright wrong since I stated that it remove certain things, every time I ran it. Bu anyway, I've got the usual antivirus and firewall on it, and not one thing wrong in the past year of ownership of his laptop.

Granted, updated that are marked urgent or recommended would be absolutely advised to be installed. But I think turning UAC off is fairly safe if the user has antivirus protection.

Either way, glad that it ended up working Xsix.
Title: Re: Vista and Halo
Post by: Glogg on December 31, 2008, 11:49:57 PM
Quote from: BringIt
i still don't recommend it.

With it off, it really isn't any more secure than XP. Even with the updated kernel and all.
But hey what do i know, I've only been using Vista since it was still in beta over 2 years ago, lol.

Also the only way UAC even pops up is if the program wants to make system changes or you need admin privileges and honestly that's what CCleaner does.
But what do i know  :laugh:.


Here is some good info for ya on UAC (http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc709691.aspx), it's also included in Windows Server 2008.
Good luck.
Title: Re: Vista and Halo
Post by: BFM_JANE on January 01, 2009, 05:29:05 AM
That UAC thing is for people like me, who clicks on, agrees with and accepts everything. I'm computerly stupid and don't know any better and I'm not the only one. I have it on, even though I have a fit every time it asks me if I'm sure. "Yes! Continue! Omg!" It's like three different things asking me if I'm sure! But there have been a few times when I decline because I don't know what it is.

It's unlikely that the feature is there simply to compete with other operating systems. Instead of instructing people to turn it off, offer some UNBIASED pros and cons of the feature and go from there. The negatives are represented here (unevenly, but still) and it makes me want to turn it off, but I know why I have it turned on, along with the other firewall thingies.

Glad you got it working Zicksy!
Title: Re: Vista and Halo
Post by: Glogg on January 01, 2009, 08:51:40 AM
Your right Jane,

My biggest pro to keeping it on:

NOTHING can be placed in the C:\WINDOWS folder without authorization. This means, no virus or malware or anything can be placed in your Windows Directory, or Start up folder without your permission.

Here is a real nice article about UAC. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_Account_Control)

A copy and paste from the article:

Tasks that trigger a UAC prompt
    * Changes to system-wide settings or to files in %SystemRoot% or %ProgramFiles%
    * Installing and uninstalling applications
    * Installing device drivers
    * Installing ActiveX controls
    * Changing settings for Windows Firewall
    * Changing UAC settings
    * Configuring Windows Update
    * Adding or removing user accounts
    * Changing a user’s account type
    * Configuring Parental Controls
    * Running Task Scheduler
    * Restoring backed-up system files
    * Viewing or changing another user’s folders and files

Common tasks, such as changing the time zone, do not require administrator privileges[6] (although changing the system time itself does, since the system time is commonly used in security protocols). A number of tasks that required administrator privileges in earlier versions of Windows, such as installing critical Windows updates, no longer do so in Vista.[7] Any program can be run as administrator by right-clicking its icon and clicking "Run as administrator".

While UAC may be annoyng to some people, it will show up less once you have everything setup and running how you want it.
Instead of just clicking yes to everythin, you should be reading what is says. You could be installing a virus.
Title: Re: Vista and Halo
Post by: Ediseye on January 01, 2009, 10:08:38 AM
Quote from: BringIt
i still don't recommend it.
...I've only been using Vista since it was still in beta over 2 years ago, lol.

Welcome to the club. ::) I still even have the Vista RC1 ISO DVD right above my monitor. I tested Vista as soon as it came out as well.

And again, with a up-to-date operating system (AKA Vista SP1 or better because of the limited kernal that developers had before it) and a up-to-date antivirus program, users SHOULD be safe if they turned UAC off. UAC detects ALL of the things that you listed on the previous page, and asks you for permission to do so. It is unaware what is a virus or malware, and what is not. A antivirus program, such as NOD32 or even Kapersky (Or another highly recommended one) will automatically detect a system virus, even with UAC OFF, and will notify the user of any BAD changes; not ones that the user tells the computer to do or perform.

As I said, I'm not trying to go and tell everyone and their mother to turn off UAC. I'm just saying that if it is a annoyance, and the person using Vista is SOMEWHAT computer literate and has security protection such as a suite installed, everything should be peachy and fine. :ssh:
Title: Re: Vista and Halo
Post by: Glogg on January 01, 2009, 11:20:47 AM
While i do agree with you that it's unaware of whats a virus or malware program, thats why it gives a pop-up so you can see whats being installed.
Also, not all virus  or malware programs detect it all :D.

I'll just copy and paste some more info for everyone to go ahead ans read. This article was written just this year to, in October i believe.

Quote
A FLAW has been discovered in Microsoft's flagship Windows Vista operating system, but the company has said it won't fix the glitch until its next, as-yet unannounced, service pack.

Discovered by Austrian researcher Thomas Unterleitner of the insecurity company Phion and announced last Friday, the buffer overflow flaw reportedly exists in Vista's networking I/O subsystem.

It can cause a blue screen of death system crash, allow denial of service attacks, or enable injection of rootkits or other malware such as viruses, trojans, bots or keyloggers.

Unterleitner told ZDnet UK that Phion had notified Microsoft of the vulnerability in October.

Phion successfully tested an exploit of the vulnerability against Vista Enterprise and Vista Ultimate and believes that other versions of Windows Vista are "very likely" also vulnerable. It says that both 32-bit and 64-bit versions of the operating system contain the flawed code.

Unterleitner said administrator privileges are required to execute a program that calls the function containing the flaw, but that doesn't seem like much of a hurdle, since Vista trains its users to click on "OK" to all sorts of security warnings.

He also said it appeared possible, though not yet confirmed, that an attacker might craft a malformed DHCP packet to "take advantage of the exploit without administrative rights."

"We have worked together with Microsoft Security Response Center in Redmond since October 2008 to locate, classify and fix this bug," Unterleitner reportedly said in an email. "Microsoft will ship a fix for this exploit with the next Vista service pack."

However, Microsoft said that it had investigated but was "currently unaware of any attacks trying to use the vulnerability or of customer impact." Nor could it confirm that a fix will be included in the next Vista service pack or project when it might get around to releasing that.

Notice how it says "administrator privileges are required to execute a program that calls the function containing the flaw". Hence why i recomment leaving UAC on.

But i believe there is enough reason to leave it on. Ultimately its up to the user to make there choice.

Opps, i think we have strayed way off topic, lol. I'm done now.
Sorry for the offtopic.
Title: Re: Vista and Halo
Post by: Ediseye on January 01, 2009, 11:42:19 AM
Good read there BringIt. Not about to lie, I was actually unaware of that issue in Vista.

But yes, we have gone quite off topic here. :XD: And you are right, it's up to the user if they want to use UAC or not in the long run.
Title: Re: Vista and Halo
Post by: Tåndêm on January 01, 2009, 07:25:16 PM
Couple things

1) Regarding the original post, next time you're asked to run DxDiag, all you have to do is (in Vista) type "dxdiag" in the Start Menu's search box and hit <ENTER>.
2) Vista doesn't have blue screens of death. They're black now. :-P
Title: Re: Vista and Halo
Post by: Glogg on January 01, 2009, 08:21:34 PM
Hmmm i hope that was a joke, lol. Cause i caused myself a Blue screen just yesterday by shutting something off that wasn't suppose to be shut off, lol.
Title: Re: Vista and Halo
Post by: xsix on January 01, 2009, 11:35:57 PM
Ok, new problem, I can't see any text in halo, not even the stuff I type! Like in the text box, what i type doesn't show up  :'(
Title: Re: Vista and Halo
Post by: MrMxyzptlk on January 02, 2009, 12:16:38 AM
Ok, new problem, I can't see any text in halo, not even the stuff I type! Like in the text box, what i type doesn't show up  :'(


Halo requires the MS XML 4.0 support be installed for text to work.

Follow the steps from the related section of this MS article: (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/810209)

1. Press and hold down the SHIFT key while you insert Halo PC disk 1.
2. On a Windows Vista-based computer, click Start, and then click Computer.

On a Windows XP-based computer, click Start, right-click My Computer, and then click Open.

On a Windows 98-based computer or on a Windows Millennium Edition (Me)-based computer, right-click My Computer, and then click Open.
3. Right-click the CD-ROM drive, and then click Explore.
4. In the root folder of the CD-ROM, double-click the Redist folder, and then double-click the Msxmlenu.msi file.
5. To complete the installation process, follow the instructions that appear on the screen.