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General Category => Tech Support and Chat => Topic started by: gamepanther on April 30, 2011, 12:57:21 AM
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Well. I deleted the other thread and just decided to post what I am going to/thinking about getting.
CPU
I have been doing some research, read some reviews, and have decided to get the:
Intel Core i7 - 2600K 3.40 GHz Quad-Core. (http://www.arc.com.au/pub.php?gid=23160&pid=39976&p=product) $314.99
Motherboard
This seems to be the Motherboard that suits me:
ASUS P8P67 Pro B3 Intel P67 Motherboard (http://www.arc.com.au/pub.php?gid=23145&pid=39906&p=product) $184.99
RAM
Well for the amount of RAM I need and for good quality I have decided to go with:
Corsair Vengeance 8GB PC15000 DDR3 RAM. (http://www.arc.com.au/pub.php?gid=23434&pid=39867&p=product) $119.99
Hard Drive
This is a pretty cool Hard Drive:
Western Digital 1TB Caviar Black Hard Drive (http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=6076939&CatId=2459) $79.99
Graphics Card
I think this one is for me:
Gigabyte Radeon HD 6870 Video Card. (http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=7229008) $184.99
Case
This case is EPIC!:
Cooler Master HAF 932M ATX Black Full-Tower Case (http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4146085&CatId=1510) $159.99
Power Supply
This will do the job perfectly:
Cooler Master GX Series 750W 80+ Bronze PSU (http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=5662681&Sku=C283-3058) $79.99
CD/DVD Drive
Sturdy Product, for a sturdy Computer:
Asus 22x Internal PATA CD/DVD Drive (http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=140649&Sku=A455-5028) $29.99
Monitor
LED Monitor for great Gaming:
LG Class Widescreen LED HD Monitor (http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=61496&csid=_21) $119.99
TOTAL COST: $1179.91
Post feedback on what can be changed please :)
When I have enough money I will buy it all and put it together :D
Stay cool,
~Panther
Different websites and a few changes:
CPU: http://www.arc.com.au/pub.php?gid=23160&pid=39976&p=product
Motherboard: http://www.arc.com.au/pub.php?gid=23145&pid=39906&p=product
Memory/RAM: http://www.arc.com.au/pub.php?gid=23434&pid=39867&p=product
Hard Drive: http://www.arc.com.au/pub.php?gid=23419&pid=38651&p=product
Graphics Card: http://www.arc.com.au/pub.php?gid=23519&pid=40803&p=product
Case: http://www.arc.com.au/pub.php?gid=23159&pid=37061&p=product
Power Supply: http://www.arc.com.au/pub.php?gid=23385&pid=38890&p=product
CD/DVD Drive: http://www.arc.com.au/pub.php?gid=23390&pid=38417&p=product
Monitor: http://arc.com.au/pub.php?gid=23141&pid=40358&p=product
Keyboard/Mouse:
http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19&sku=ALIEN1&baynote_bnrank=0&baynote_irrank=0&~ck=baynoteSearch
Windows 7: http://arc.com.au/pub.php?gid=23133&pid=38183&p=product
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You don't need more than 8gb of memory.
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You don't need more than 8gb of memory.
Yeah, I know. I'll probably change it later.
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Oh and BTW, what does this mean?
VGA Ports: None
DVI Ports: None
HDMI Ports: None
DisplayPorts: None
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That's basically all your display ports for things like monitors, projectors, etc. Pretty much you will be plugging those things in to your video card because the card has ports on it.
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Ohhh OK. I was like. Does that mean I cant see the picture on anything??? :LOL:
Also I am stuck on what graphics card I should choose.
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It depends on what kind of budget you are on.
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Well I am going to change the RAM for something cheaper sooo... $150-200 at its highest.
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if you want a good graphics card withing that price range, try tigerdirect.com. i managed to get a Nvidia 9800 for 50$!
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Is that a good card?
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This one has really good reviews/feedback!
http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-PCI-Express-Graphics-01G-P3-1450-TR/dp/B0041RRNBM/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1304215171&sr=8-3
(And no, an Nvidia 9800 is a weak card)
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I think I am going to get this one:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004DKWLB4/ref=s9_simh_gw_p23_d0_i2?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=0DQ3JWVQ6FMPG8XCDRR4&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=470938631&pf_rd_i=507846
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Will this case fit the stuff I have? I have no idea.
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4631382&Sku=C283-1223
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Looks like the mobo and case are ATX so it should fit fine.
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Looks like the mobo and case are ATX so it should fit fine.
Sweet, Thanks.
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If you're wanting to save a bit, don't go for velociraptors. Just stick to the Samsung F3 1TB / WD 1TB Black drives, or go for an SSD and one of the aforementioned drives.
A good SSD will absolutely thrash velociraptors, while the F3 drives are much better value for money, and are actually faster for sustained reads and writes.
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If you're wanting to save a bit, don't go for velociraptors. Just stick to the Samsung F3 1TB / WD 1TB Black drives, or go for an SSD and one of the aforementioned drives.
A good SSD will absolutely thrash velociraptors, while the F3 drives are much better value for money, and are actually faster for sustained reads and writes.
Wait, so the Samsung F3 thingys are faster than VelociRaptors?
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OK. So now I have what I want to get, could I please have some feedback on what I could change to make the system better? :)
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An SSD is a different kind of drive that accesses information much faster than even a souped up regular HD. The best idea is to run your general operating system of it (it is a smaller HD) and then run everything else from your other drives. Cost efficient AND better performance!
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I think you may be misinformed about SSD's there guys...or I am :P. Solid State hard Drives do have advantages over traditional hard drives but speed is not one of them. They are (presuably) much more reliable due to the fact that they have no moving parts. They are also much smaller in size, for the same storage capacity, than tradfitional hard drives. Everything I have seen though about there access speed is that they transfer data MUCH slower than SATA drives. I just looked around and every SSD I found has transfer rates of around 250Mbps in comparison to a traditional SATA drive which is 3 or 6Gbps depending on which generation you get.
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That 12GB's of RAM is waaaaaaaaaaaaaay overkill. Seriously. The most I've ever heard of used was when Taipan was playing Crysis and maxed his 6GBs's. 8 would be the best option, and thinking of running A LOT of stuff at one time, 8 still suffices. Lion Martinez(A developer over at Expansive Worlds(An off branch of Avalanche Studios)Who I talk to quite frequently) states that on his 6 core beast, when running Photoshop CS5, Premiere CS5, and multiple other programs while developing and testing their current game, he doesn't go above 8gigs, ever.
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I think you may be misinformed about SSD's there guys...or I am :P. Solid State hard Drives do have advantages over traditional hard drives but speed is not one of them. They are (presuably) much more reliable due to the fact that they have no moving parts. They are also much smaller in size, for the same storage capacity, than tradfitional hard drives. Everything I have seen though about there access speed is that they transfer data MUCH slower than SATA drives. I just looked around and every SSD I found has transfer rates of around 250Mbps in comparison to a traditional SATA drive which is 3 or 6Gbps depending on which generation you get.
It is indeed you who is misinformed. :smly_a_wink:
The average performance drive (I'm talking about the WD Blacks / Samsung F3s) can only read at around 130MByte/s sustained (<1MByte/s random), and has access times of 15-25ms.
A decent SSD (from late 09) can do sustained reads of around 200MByte/s (random 20MByte/s (and up!)) with access times around 0.5ms.
What this means is that an SSD takes far less time to find the data, and can read it off at a higher rate.
As for SATA speeds, they're really irrelevant when it comes to normal hard drives. They can't get anywhere near the limits of SATA (you're looking <1Gbit/s for a decent one).
Some SSDs, however, are limited by the generation 2 SATA rates (3Gbit/s).
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Short version: SSDs are BETTER/FASTER at SEEKING-AND-READING LINEAR data than HDDs. But that is NOT true in all "disk-like data accesses," but it true "over all."
read me (http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/power/hardware/whitepapers/ssd_ibmi.html)
Finally, my opinion on this entire thread: There is absolutely NO REASON to get/build the "most technically up-to-date" computer for any use other than specific commercial or research uses, period. Keep in mind that - whatever computer you get/build - it will have a value of $0 in ~ three years.
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Short version: SSDs are BETTER/FASTER at SEEKING-AND-READING LINEAR data than HDDs. But that is NOT true in all "disk-like data accesses," but it true "over all."
read me (http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/power/hardware/whitepapers/ssd_ibmi.html)
Finally, my opinion on this entire thread: There is absolutely NO REASON to get/build the "most technically up-to-date" computer for any use other than specific commercial or research uses, period. Keep in mind that - whatever computer you get/build - it will have a value of $0 in ~ three years.
I saw you say that before, how does that work?
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Short version: SSDs are BETTER/FASTER at SEEKING-AND-READING LINEAR data than HDDs. But that is NOT true in all "disk-like data accesses," but it true "over all."
read me (http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/power/hardware/whitepapers/ssd_ibmi.html)
Finally, my opinion on this entire thread: There is absolutely NO REASON to get/build the "most technically up-to-date" computer for any use other than specific commercial or research uses, period. Keep in mind that - whatever computer you get/build - it will have a value of $0 in ~ three years.
I saw you say that before, how does that work?
Even if computing technological and manufacturing areas grew at a linear pace and new standards matched that pace your computer would be three "generations" old in three years. (That's assuming annual "jumps," which in today's computing world is driven by the economics of the consumer, and for "family" computing, that's roughly September - December, annually.)
So in three years time, you're essentially using "your Great Grandfather's" computer from a Technological perspective, which basically means that it's junk. (Think about it: How many THREE YEAR OLD "computers for sale" do you see advertised?!?!)
Now, any investment that falls to $0 in just three years is a BAD investment, right? So the idea is to get ONLY WHAT YOU NEED and spend nothing more than that since you're throwing it all away in three years of use. I.e. Would you buy an expensive, fancy refrigerator if it only lasted three years, or a model that "just did the job?"
Hence the BEST you can do is to spend just what it takes to "just get the job done" with a new computer.
So I always advise that Technology-based purchases be made ONLY when there is a NEED for newer Tech', and to buy "what's just going OUT of favor" due to the newest "wave" of replacement Tech'. E.g. If you want to get a new game/program that's just come out, find the LEAST CAPABLE COMPUTER that can play that game, and then see if you can find anything just "one step up" from that (set of spec's) for a very small increment in price, and get THAT computer. [E.g. A refrigerator that's CAPABLE of holding all you might put in it, and then find one that's "frost-free" and has an ice-maker for $10 more, and get THAT.]
The best evidence to support all this is to look at how businesses handle this "rapid obsolescence" problem on their bottom line. To see the best analogous example, look at the Tech' Industry itself: What's the "write-off" for a computer in a Technology company? In the 1990s we were writing them to $0 in five years at Silicon Valley companies - They were just trash to us at that point. It's TWO DECADES later now, so they're likely worthless in under 18 months now. (And the Tech sector - no one for that matter - isn't "fat" any more, so they're all being frugal nowadays....) So three years is probably "a REAL long time" to have the same computer in the business world, even in today's tough times.
I hope this answers this question once and for all. I get it all the time and it boggles my mind since it's blatantly obvious to me, and has served me well in all my purchases - of ANY type of durable item - since the 1970s. I think it might be a semi-unique USA "mass consumption" + "latest & greatest" attitude-gone-wild thing, too, as I see a lot more "level heads" about this sort of thing OUTSIDE the US! (Note that there's evidence of all this now SLOWING - likely due to the world-wide economic situation, methinks - because of late, the computers that I've serviced ARE older machines, some of them five+ years old even. People seem to be "squeezing that orange" really hard in such times....)
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So Panther, in short of what Mxy is saying, don't do what I do and buy near top of the line everything for your rig, because honestly, it isn't worth it unless you plan to do some serious computing.
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Thanks Mxy, that did answer that question for me. I knew computers depreciate quickly, but (until I read that) I didn't really know why.
If I had money to waste (one burden I wouldn't mind bearing), I would probably get the best computer out there, and would probably get the best I could afford now. But there's no point! Being frugal isn't that bad and doesn't always mean going without. What a relief :P
Nice post, thanks again.
PS to Panther- Save a few bucks where you can on the computer and have some money leftover to buy thing$ to use on it.
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Thanks Mxy, that did answer that question for me. I knew computers depreciate quickly, but (until I read that) I didn't really know why.
If I had money to waste (one burden I wouldn't mind bearing), I would probably get the best computer out there, and would probably get the best I could afford now. But there's no point! Being frugal isn't that bad and doesn't always mean going without. What a relief :P
Nice post, thanks again.
PS to Panther- Save a few bucks where you can on the computer and have some money leftover to buy thing$ to use on it.
Ohh OK. So is that what my future rig is?
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What is a USB 2.0 and a USB 3.0?
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USB 3.0 is the the newest serial bus that's becoming quite popular as it allows for quicker transfer speeds, it's best to have a motherboard with 2.0 and 3.0 ports though.
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USB 3.0 is the the newest serial bus that's becoming quite popular as it allows for quicker transfer speeds, it's best to have a motherboard with 2.0 and 3.0 ports though.
OK. So my Motherboards a good one?
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PS to Panther- Save a few bucks where you can on the computer and have some money leftover to buy thing$ to use on it.
If you are going to do this make sure they are downgrades IMO. Ex. Don't buy a PSU for 30$ and the same wattage as another one that is 50$, because then you are buying lower quality stuff that could break sooner. I had to get a new PSU recently because I ordered a pretty cheap one thinking it was no big deal. As it turns out, the cables on it were like three inches short of the ports on my mobo even though they were both clearly stated ATX form factor. So I decided to go with a Corsair for 30$ more and couldn't have been happier with the switch.
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And Panther...as stated multiple times before by everyone..you don't need 12 gigs of RAM! 8 will suffice, and you might never even max your 8, and it's a bit of a wiser choice in some rigs to go with ATI/AMD video Cards...
Btw:Lucky...I wanna see those pictures of your rig already! ;D
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I have to replace the mobo QQ it was dead. But after that I will ;D
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And Panther...as stated multiple times before by everyone..you don't need 12 gigs of RAM! 8 will suffice, and you might never even max your 8, and it's a bit of a wiser choice in some rigs to go with ATI/AMD video Cards...
Btw:Lucky...I wanna see those pictures of your rig already! ;D
I know, I know, I am going to get 8, just can't be bothered to change the post... I will though :)
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What could I use 12 Gigs of ram for.... ram wrestling the whole pentagon? :dance:
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What could I use 12 Gigs of ram for.... ram wrestling the whole pentagon? :dance:
I guess you could play Starcraft II on max settings while downloading a movie from Netflix, installing Portal 2, watching Youtube, spamming the Enter key while all icons on your desktop are highlighted, and chatting on MSN! ;D
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What could I use 12 Gigs of ram for.... ram wrestling the whole pentagon? :dance:
I guess you could play Starcraft II on max settings while downloading a movie from Netflix, installing Portal 2, watching Youtube, spamming the Enter key while all icons on your desktop are highlighted, and chatting on MSN! ;D
And don't forget about playing 2 other games at the same time on different monitors! :clint:
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What could I use 12 Gigs of ram for.... ram wrestling the whole pentagon? :dance:
I guess you could play Starcraft II on max settings while downloading a movie from Netflix, installing Portal 2, watching Youtube, spamming the Enter key while all icons on your desktop are highlighted, and chatting on MSN! ;D
And don't forget about playing 2 other games at the same time on different monitors! :clint:
I do that :P
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Rig Updated. (See main post).
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Still with the velociraptors? :interesting:
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Still with the velociraptors? :interesting:
Oh yeah... So, what was wrong with them? And what is a good SDD HD?
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For that kind of money, you could (at least here in NZ) get a decent 120-160GB SSD and one or two F3 drives; and even the F3s wouldn't be much different performance wise (but at a fraction of the cost.)
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For that kind of money, you could (at least here in NZ) get a decent 120-160GB SSD and one or two F3 drives; and even the F3s wouldn't be much different performance wise (but at a fraction of the cost.)
But SDD drives are like HEAPS expensive?
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For that kind of money, you could (at least here in NZ) get a decent 120-160GB SSD and one or two F3 drives; and even the F3s wouldn't be much different performance wise (but at a fraction of the cost.)
But SDD drives are like HEAPS expensive?
Read an article a couple of days ago, with the headline something like "SSD cost to be $1/GB in 2012."
In short, SSD production is starting to ramp up very quickly and cheaper materials and methods are coming off the "drawing boards" and into production.
If I were you, I wouldn't buy an SSD for a while....
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For that kind of money, you could (at least here in NZ) get a decent 120-160GB SSD and one or two F3 drives; and even the F3s wouldn't be much different performance wise (but at a fraction of the cost.)
But SDD drives are like HEAPS expensive?
Read an article a couple of days ago, with the headline something like "SSD cost to be $1/GB in 2012."
In short, SSD production is starting to ramp up very quickly and cheaper materials and methods are coming off the "drawing boards" and into production.
If I were you, I wouldn't buy an SSD for a while....
Are my Raptors a good choice?
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Are my Raptors a good choice?
Dunno. Which do you prefer: a good price, with a lot of storage (e.g. 2TB for US$60), or an expensive price with faster data accesses (OVER US$1/GB for 150GB)?
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Are my Raptors a good choice?
Dunno. Which do you prefer: a good price, with a lot of storage (e.g. 2TB for US$60), or an expensive price with faster data accesses (OVER US$1/GB for 150GB)?
Is 7200rpm fast? Tech nub :P
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If you've got a fairly nice CPU on with your rig(which you do) You won't even really notice the different to much, I'd just go with standard Hard Disks instead of Solid Slates..
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Is 7200rpm fast? Tech nub :P
>sigh< The rotational speed of a hard disk drive (HDD) only effects a portion of its speed.
Suffice to say that 7200 rpm is "the norm" for HDDs right now. (You can get 10,000 rpm drives, but again, WHY?! They're likely more subject to fail, and fail earlier than the more standard, less "pushed-past-the-limit" 10,000 rpm drives....)
And again, given that SDDs will basically begin to REPLACE HDDs (having become cost-equivalent) SOMETIME NEXT YEAR...
WAIT!
Buy a capable, adequate, reasonable-cost HDD now, and UPGRADE IT NEXT YEAR*.
* Do the upgrade as an add-on, thusly: Image the old (HDD) drive to the new (SDD) drive; Confirm all is fine with the new (SDD) drive running your computer; the wipe the OLD (HDD) drive and use it for additional/occasional storage of static data, OR keep it as a backup device....
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Is 7200rpm fast? Tech nub :P
>sigh< The rotational speed of a hard disk drive (HDD) only effects a portion of its speed.
Suffice to say that 7200 rpm is "the norm" for HDDs right now. (You can get 10,000 rpm drives, but again, WHY?! They're likely more subject to fail, and fail earlier than the more standard, less "pushed-past-the-limit" 10,000 rpm drives....)
And again, given that SDDs will basically begin to REPLACE HDDs (having become cost-equivalent) SOMETIME NEXT YEAR...
WAIT!
Buy a capable, adequate, reasonable-cost HDD now, and UPGRADE IT NEXT YEAR*.
* Do the upgrade as an add-on, thusly: Image the old (HDD) drive to the new (SDD) drive; Confirm all is fine with the new (SDD) drive running your computer; the wipe the OLD (HDD) drive and use it for additional/occasional storage of static data, OR keep it as a backup device....
Ohhh ok, I get it now :)
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About time to update your rig post buddy. :)
And if you wish add some prices so we can look at the overall and individual prices of the parts you buy. Guys here might be able to help you shop around and get the best deal.
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Sure thing :)
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OK, I think I am going to get the parts soon. Is it a good rig? Anything I can change for the better?
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short of spending more money on a better graphics card, it looks pretty good. One thing you may think about though is a better cpu cooler. the stock intel ones are rubbish :)
EDIT: Dude, save yourself $100 and get a 2500K, my guess you dont do a lot of hardcore video editing/rendering/heavy multitasking, so you wont be needing the hyperthreading, which is the only difference.
Then you can get something like this: http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=193_1164&products_id=17084
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Ooooh. Looks nice :D. Thanks man.
Edit: You mean this one?
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=7073161&Sku=I69-2500K
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yep thats the one :)
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...Almost five pages in now, and by the time you order your "kit" everything will be out-of-date!
:siderofl:
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LOL. I thought you said it didn't matter, and that it is best to get the one step down generation :P
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LOL. I thought you said it didn't matter, and that it is best to get the one step down generation :P
Ya, but we'll be using hovercars by the time this gets built!
:siderofl:
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LOL. I thought you said it didn't matter, and that it is best to get the one step down generation :P
Ya, but we'll be using hovercars by the time this gets built!
:siderofl:
LOL!!!
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OK, me and my dad are going to build it these holidays. (Which are in a week for me). So we are gonna order in the next couple of days. Anything to change? I'm also not to sure with that moniter. I don't really like it. Anyone got any good HD suggestions?
~Corp. Panther
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I don't plan to go into the specific parameter comparisons in this post, however I have a Viewsonic monitor and I find it is great to use and have had no problems with dead pixels. I think it is a 3 year warranty on the monitors. A cheap 21.5' from Viewsonic would also allow you to play in 1920 x 1080 resolution, which that monitor does not support. Given the quality of your graphics card I would definitely be looking at at monitor that can support this resolution (ok so I picked on one parameter :P ). Others may have a different view, however all the monitors my family has purchased in the past 7 years have been viewsonics and have worked without a problem (which is around 6 of maybe 3 different models).
Computer Parts Land (CPL) have the VA2238wm-LED for $140.
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Thanks a lot Exodus! I'll look into it!
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Edited the main post to add
Windows 7 Ultimate
Alienware TactX Keyboard and Mouse
New Monitor
Blueray CD/DVD Drive
Cooler Master Full Tower Case
Super Clocked Graphics card, not a normal one
thats it.
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Woot! :woot: Me and my dad are going to the ARC computer shop tomorrow :D Yay!
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dude thats some beast stuff niiiiiiice (my jealousy burnnnsss lol)
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Lol, thanks Joel!
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Broseph, hows le build coming along? Need to post pictures of this beast of a machine(Lucky....you still haven't done so either....and it's been FREVER, yes, frever, since you said you would.
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Broseph, hows le build coming along? Need to post pictures of this beast of a machine(Lucky....you still haven't done so either....and it's been FREVER, yes, frever, since you said you would.
We went to ARC yesterday to ask the guy there about our build, so soon we are going to go back, buy the parts, and build it! I will post some pictures once I am done.
~Panther
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Well yesterday I got the parts and put them all in the case. The only problem was, I had absolutely no idea where to put all of the cables and wires and stuff, so I got my friend to help me :) There is like no cable management but whatever. IT WORKS :D :D :D Now my friends dad is bringing over a Windows 7 Ultimate disk, because he gets a lot of free stuff from Dell.
I will put some pictures up now of my terrible cable management.
Final Rig Rundown:
CPU: Core i5 2500K
RAM: 8 GB Vengeance Corsair
Hard Drive: Western Digital 1 TB Caviar Black
Motherboard: Asus P8P67 Pro
Graphics Card: Gigabyte 6870 Radeon Super Over Clock Edition
Power Supply: Cooler Master GX 650W
Case: Cooler Master HAF X 942 Full Tower
Thanks for all of your input guys,
~Panther
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IT LIVES*!!!
Gratz & have fun!!
* And we didn't have to wait for hovercars to be here! ;D